Hmm .

Obviously, you knowLizzo.

It’s not a stretch to say Lizzo’s career has had its share of ups and downs over the last several years. Three years after her “About Damn Time” was the #1 song in the US, she recentlyreturnedwithseveral singlesthat failed to chart on the Billboard Hot 100. More notably,Lizzofaced several lawsuits in 2023 for alleged sexual harassment and other claims, which she’s sinceaddressed publicly. (At least one of the lawsuits is still ongoing.)

In a new episode oftheTherapusspodcast, Lizzo contemplated her career at large and claimed that she’s been “canceled” numerous times since becoming famous.

“I’ve been canceled a lot," she said. “I shouldn’t say I’ve been canceled, because I’m still going, but I’ve gotten backlash a lot. Literally every single time I’ve received backlash I use it as a growing and learning lesson.”

In the interview, Lizzo also reflected on the backlash she faced after her song “Good As Hell” appeared in a Weight Watchers commercial in 2019, shortly afterOprahWinfrey bought the company.

“It was like, ‘Oprah wants to use your song,’ I lost my mind," she recalled feeling at the time. “I was like, ‘Oh my god Oprah knows who I am!’ I was like, ‘Yes! Yes.'”

“I remember posting the commercial because I was so proud and everybody was like, ‘You’re fucking joking right, like this is promoting eating disorders. And I was like, ‘Oh my god.’ It broke my heart. It truly broke my heart.”

If I may, for a moment: Being in the public eye seems miserable, and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone, really. That said! If you are appearing on a podcast talking about how you’ve been “canceled” — especially after you’re still signed to a major label that releases your music,andyou’re bookingpromising film roles— I think it’s well worth examining if being “canceled” is even a thing.

Anyway, whatever. You can listen to the entire episode with Lizzohere.

Lizzo in a fitted black dress with a pattern and voluminous sleeves poses in front of a "Watch What Happens Live" step-and-repeat wall

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Lizzo on red carpet in a corset over a dress, standing in front of an Amazon event backdrop

Lizzo with long hair and hoop earrings wearing a black, high-neck, perforated top

Lizzo with styled blonde hair and bold makeup in an elegant black dress at a public event

Lizzo on red carpet wearing a unique sculptural dress with wavy elements, posing with hands near face

Lizzo on a red carpet in elegant strapless gown with dramatic eye makeup and long gloves, standing against a backdrop with "Breakthrough Prize" text